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  • New Honda Forza 125, Forza 350 Debuts – India Launch Expected 2021

    Honda Forza 125
    Forza range of scooters from Honda is said to be one of the most popular Maxi scooter ranges going around

    A few days ago Honda unveiled its top of the line maxi scooter 2021 Forza 750. Now, the Japanese auto major has unveiled its entire Forza lineup which includes its younger siblings- Forza 350 and Forza 125. While the Forza 350 replaces Forza 300, the Forza 125 continues to serve as the entry-level power scooter in Honda’s portfolio.
    The 2021 Forza 350 made its maiden appearance at the Bangkok International Motor Show earlier this year in July. Both scooters are very much similar in design with subtle updates from their predecessors. What’s more interesting is that both scooters might come to India in future.
    Honda Forza 350
    Forza 125- Design
    Starting with the Forza 125, it gets minor cosmetic updates which include a redesigned front and side fairings, rear side panels, a new engine cover and rearview mirrors. The updated design is aimed not only to make it look sleeker but also to improve its aerodynamic attributes. It will be offered in five paint schemes namely- Pearl Cool White, Matt Cynos Grey Metallic, Mat Carnelian Red Metallic, Lucent Silver Metallic and Pearl Nightstar Black.
    Features on offer
    In terms of features, the equipment list consists of an electric screen, full LED lighting, an Idling Stop system, a Smart Key ignition and an ACG starter. The 2021 Forza 125 gets an updated and re-shaped electric windscreen which can be adjusted for an extra 40mm travel. The updated model also comes with a USB port instead of the ACC 12V charging point present in the previous model.

    Powertrain
    The updated Forza 125 draws its power from the same 124.9cc liquid-cooled single-cylinder engine which is now Euro-5 compliant. This unit generates 14.75bhp at 8,750rpm and 12.2Nm of peak torque at 6,500rpm and is now equipped with a four-valve version of Honda’s eSP (‘enhanced Smart Power’). It can attain a top speed of 108 kmph.
    Forza 350- Powertrain
    On the other hand, Forza 350 is powered by a 330cc liquid-cooled single-cylinder engine replacing the 279cc engine from Forza 300. This unit is capable enough to churn out 28.8bhp at 7500rpm and 31.5Nm of peak torque at 5250rpm.

    Apart from increasing the bore and stroke of the cylinder, Honda has also altered the engine with a lighter crankshaft, larger valves and a bigger throttle body. The intake and exhaust ports have also been reconfigured. The Japanese manufacturer claims that the new Forza 350 is quicker than its predecessor and can clock a top speed of 137 kmph.
    Design & Features
    Speaking of its design as well as features, it is more or less similar to its smaller sibling. It gets a full LED lighting setup and an electrically adjustable windshield with a travel of 180mm. Like Forza 125, Forza 350 is also equipped with Honda’s Selectable Torque Control (HSTC) which is also present in Honda CB350 launched recently. Apart from these, it also gets Honda Smartphone Voice Control as an option.

    Both scooters run on a 15-inch front wheel and a 14-inch rear wheel and are offered with disc brakes on both ends with dual-channel ABS as standard. Suspension duties on both are carried out by telescopic forks at front and twin shocks at rear. Forza 350 weighs just a little over 180kg whereas Forza 125 measures 159kg.
    Expected India Launch
    Forza 125 and Forza 350 are slated to hit the European markets early next year and prices will be announced soon. As for its launch in India, there is no word from Honda as of yet but sources believe that we might see these scooters by the end of 2021. More

  • Honda CB350 Official Accessories Prices – Split Seats, Panniers, Crash Guard

    Honda CB350
    The Honda CB350 accessories list also includes split seats with removable pillion seat

    The Honda CB350 retro-classic roadster is designed to be a comfortable tourer with a refined motor, adequate performance and relaxed ergonomics. With its latest product, Honda Motorcycle and Scooter India (HMSI) wants to lure potential touring enthusiasts away from Royal Enfield Classic 350.
    Honda H’ness CB350 Accessories
    In a bid to enhance the H’ness CB350’s appeal, the company has released a range of official accessories. The reasonably priced accessories are aimed at making the motorcycle a more practical long distance tourer. Video below by Abhinav Bhatt explains all the official accessories of Honda CB350 in detail.
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    The first item on the accessories list is the side stand kit which is priced INR 375 but it is to be noted that the stock bike itself is equipped with one. The classic butterfly-type crash guards which are one of the essential accessories are priced at INR 1,234 and they are finished in black.
    A pair of rubber fork gaiters are priced at INR 581. In addition to providing dust protection to the telescopic front forks, they will go a long way in enhancing the motorcycle’s classic appeal. The saddle stay bars to support the panniers are priced at INR 643 for one side and INR 697 for the other side. Surprisingly, Honda’s official accessories list does not include branded panniers to go with the saddle stays.
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    Honda CB350 Official Accessories
    Price Rs
    1
    Pad, Tank Center
    309
    2
    Side Stand
    375
    3
    Engine Lower Protection
    465
    4
    Fork Gators
    581
    5
    Pannier Support A
    643
    6
    Pannier Support B
    697
    7
    Engine Guard
    1,234
    8
    Split Seat Black
    3,705
    9
    Split Seat Brown
    3,705
    The fuel tank protector with rubber surface is priced at INR 309 while the engine lower pipe guard is priced at INR 465. The optional two-piece seats are by far the most expensive accessory at INR 3,705. Available in brown and black colour options, the split-seat setup allows the owners to remove the pillion seat to be removed.
    Honda H’ness CB350 at a glance
    To recap, the Honda CB350 is powered by a 348.3 cc air-cooled, single-cylinder engine which is tuned to deliver 20.8 hp and 30 Nm of torque. The engine is mated to a 5-speed gearbox by means of a slipper clutch. The motorcycle has a kerb weight of 181 kg.
    The classic roadster is equipped with traditional front telescopic forks and twin shock absorbers but it also comes with modern features like LED headlights, Bluetooth enabled turn-by-turn navigation and smartphone voice control. The front and rear disc brakes are supported by dual-channel ABS and motorcycle comes with selectable torque control system which prevents the rear from stepping out under hard acceleration.
    The Honda H’ness CB350 is priced at INR 1.85 lakh for the base Deluxe variant and 1.90 lakh for the Deluxe Pro variant (prices are ex-showroom). The motorcycle rivals the Royal Enfields and Jawas. More

  • Honda CB350 Highway Touring Performance – Top Speed, Acceleration

    Honda CB350
    Rival to the Royal Enfield Classic 350, new Honda CB350 deliveries have now started in India

    In a series of videos, YouTuber Abhinav Bhatt has been providing detailed reviews of his ride experience with recently launched Honda CB350. In this latest upload, Abhinav talks about the motorcycle’s performance on open roads, its cruising speed, top speed, etc.
    Honda CB350 cruising speed
    According to the rider, Honda CB350 can handle a consistent speed of around 100 kmph. But, it seems to be more comfortable to drive at around 80-90 kmph. However, this is an entirely new bike, so it won’t be appropriate to quote these numbers as facts. Below is the video that details CB350’s performance and handling in the real world.
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    It is possible that the bike’s performance may change after it adds more kilometres and completes its initial servicing schedule. Road conditions and riding skills also come into play when determining the comfortable cruising speed of a motorcycle.
    A good thing about CB350 is that it is vibration free. According to the rider, he does not feel any vibrations coming from the foot pegs or handlebar. There’s only a slight hint of buzzing from the rear view mirrors. However, this is not something that one cannot live with.
    Talking about some of the negative aspects of the motorcycle, the rider says that the seats are slightly hard. The experience is similar with the stiff suspension as well.
    This is clearly evident when the bike hits a rough patch on the road. It seems to create an uncomfortable bounce. However, having a stiffer suspension can be beneficial also, as it ensures smooth cornering at high speeds.
    As in city traffic and off-roading conditions, using the clutch and changing gears is an effortless experience on open roads as well. In first gear, CB350 can comfortably touch around 15 kmph. In second gear, the bike’s speed can be in the range of 20 to 70 kmph. Third gear easily supports up to 90 kmph. Anything beyond that will be better to tackle with 4th and 5th gear. According to the rider, the fifth gear seems a bit like an overdrive.
    Honda CB350 top speed
    The top speed clocked by the rider in this test run is 115 kmph. It could have been more, but the rider did not rev it further, as this is a new bike. Also, this bike is made for comfortable cruising and not high-speed racing. Even in case of rival Royal Enfield Classic 350, most users would recommend cruising speed of around 100 kmph.
    The rider has said that he will upload some more videos on Honda CB350 in the coming days. Some of these will include night time drive experience, mileage, etc. More

  • Honda CB350 Off Road Review – Tough Enough For Leh Ladakh, Real Mileage?

    Honda CB350 Off-Road
    After posting the first test ride review of Honda CB350, vlogger Abhinav Bhatt has shared yet another exclusive video

    Launched in September, Honda CB350 aka the H’ness has been receiving a lot of appreciation from biking enthusiasts. Now that deliveries have commenced, we are also witnessing a number of on-road test drive reports from owners and other users. In this latest ride experience report, YouTuber Abhinav Bhatt tries to find out if Honda CB350 has the capabilities to take on the challenging terrain of high-altitude locations such as Spiti Valley, Leh and Ladakh.
    These locations are among the most challenging for any vehicle, as there are several patches of bad roads, loose gravel dirt tracks, and slushy wet mud filled potholes. Extreme weather conditions and low oxygen levels are other factors that can challenge the road worthiness of vehicles at such locations. This is the reason why most auto companies usually test their new vehicles at these places.
    Why take CB350 to Leh, Ladakh?
    In case of Honda CB350, the Leh, Ladakh challenge is all the more relevant. That’s because its primary rival Royal Enfield motorcycles have already conquered such heights. Royal Enfield motorcycles are among the most preferred vehicles for tours to these locations. As may be recalled, Royal Enfield motorcycles are also used by the Indian Armed Forces at these high-altitude locations.
    Due to these reasons, many biking enthusiasts are curious to know if Honda CB350 can take the Leh, Ladakh challenge. Some of the answers are in the below video, in which the rider takes the CB350 on an off-road trip in Aravalli hills near Delhi.
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    As can be seen in the video, this off-road track is nowhere close to the rough tracks of Leh, Ladakh. However, it can still be used as a reference point to get a basic idea about how the bike will perform in an off-road environment. The biker had earlier posted a video about riding the CB350 on city streets and highways. In that test ride too, the bike had performed as per expectations.
    From his initial experience, the biker feels that Honda CB350 has a relatively harder suspension and seat, as compared to Royal Enfield motorcycles. According to him, this can be a problem for long distance touring. However, apart from that, CB350 seems like a better designed product in comparison to rivals.
    Type of off-road track
    This off-road track primarily comprises a dirt track with loose top soil. There are bumps and depressions all along the track as well as some patches of rocky terrain. From the rider’s perspective, CB350 has performed exceptionally well on this track. Throughout most of the journey, the motorcycle was being driven at a speed of around 30 kmph. The rider did not attempt higher speeds, as CB350 is not built for high-speed off-roading.

    Despite the bumps, the entire journey was quite comfortable. There was no performance issues noticed with CB350. Powering the bike is a 348 cc motor that is capable of generating 21 bhp of max power at 5500 rpm and 30 Nm of max torque at 3000 rpm. That’s slightly more than Royal Enfield Classic 350 that makes 19.1 bhp / 28 Nm. However, Jawa has the max power output in this group at 26 bhp. Both CB350 and Classic 350 have 5-speed transmission whereas Jawa has 6-speed transmission.
    Other things that made this journey comfortable include the assist and slipper clutch and the smooth gearbox. Even on the varyingly uneven terrain, using the clutch and changing gears was largely an effortless experience. Another important thing to note is that the gear design makes it possible to change the gears with just your heels. One doesn’t need to put the front of the shoes beneath the gear shaft. This will be useful for folks who may be planning to use CB350 for office commutes.
    Real Time Mileage
    This test run provides a rough idea about the motorcycle’s fuel efficiency. On the real-time mileage indicator, the numbers show up as 37 kmpl, which is pretty good for a 350 cc motorcycle. Throughout the journey, the thumping sound of the motorcycle is clearly audible. This is another plus for CB350, as the aural experience is one of the primary factors why people prefer rival Royal Enfield motorcycles. CB350’s exhaust note is not as loud as Royal Enfield, but it does give you a sense of riding something powerful.
    Problem areas for CB350
    Although CB350 seems to outperform its rival in most aspects, the biker feels that it is unlikely to beat Royal Enfield anytime soon. Royal Enfield motorcycles have acquired cult status over the years and there are a lot of emotions involved. It can be said that CB350 is a way too perfect machine whereas Royal Enfield has a more humane character with its mix of goodness and imperfections. Relating to the latter is naturally easier for users.
    Another potential problem is that CB350 is being sold via Honda’s premium Big Wing dealerships. These are fairly less in numbers, as compared to Royal Enfield that has wide presence even in small towns and cities. Honda has said that it will increase the number of Big Wing outlets, but that could take time.
    Verdict
    Overall, the biker feels that Honda CB350 can definitely conquer the heights of Leh, Ladakh. However, he also mentions that all of these are his personal opinions. The experience can vary from user to user based on a range of factors such as riding skills, prejudices, etc. From a business perspective, it’s the sales numbers that ultimately decide the winner. And that will be revealed in the coming months. More

  • Honda CB350 is Smooth, No Vibrations – First Owner Test Ride Review

    Honda CB350 First Owner Review
    Honda H’Ness CB350 is the third BS6 compliant product to be retailed through Big Wing dealerships

    Honda Two-wheelers India has started dispatching the recently launched H’Ness CB350. The retro classic motorcycle has been receiving appreciation from all quarters since its reveal last month. Now, the first batch of CB350 motorcycles have been delivered to respective owners.
    On the occasion of delivering the first batch of CB350 motorcycles to its respective owners, Honda conducted a special ceremony at their Big Wing dealership in Gurgaon, Haryana. All the owners were called at the same time, and were given keys at the same time.
    Honda CB350 First Batch Delivery. Image – Abhinav Bhatt
    A total of 17 units of Honda CB350 were delivered from the dealership. Abhinav Bhatt’s uncle is one of the 17 lucky owners, who has been allotted the first batch of new Honda CB350 in India.
    But it is Abhinav who has taken delivery. He plans to keep the CB350 with him for the next few days, before giving it to his uncle, who is the actual owner of the motorcycle. Immediately after taking delivery, he has created first ride impression video of Honda CB350, and posted the same on his channel. This is in fact the first ever ride review of the new Honda CB350, and can be watched below.
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    In the video, Abhinav has given a detailed first review of Honda CB350. He talks in detail about how the motorcycle performs in traffic situations, how is the suspension and ride quality, engine vibrations, seat comfort, rear view mirror visibility, gear shift smoothness, exhaust sound while riding, and a lot more things.
    In his Honda CB350 review, Abhinav says that this is a really smooth motorcycle, and has no vibrations at all. Will this Honda motorcycle finally end the dominance of Royal Enfield in the segment? Only time will tell.
    Price
    Available across two variants- DLX and DLX Pro, the CB350 is offered at a price of Rs 1.85 lakh and Rs 1.90 lakh for respective variants (both prices are ex-showroom). On road price in Gurgaon is about Rs 2.18 lakhs.
    Variants, Colours on offer
    It is retailed through Honda’s Big Wing dealership chain and is currently the third BS6 model in the premium dealership’s network. The CB350 is offered in a total of six colours- three mono-tone colours for the DLX trim and three dual-tone colours for DLX Pro trim.
    Single-tone colours include Pearl Night Star Black, Precious Red Metallic and Matte Marshal Green Metallic. Whereas dual-tone paint schemes include Athletic Blue Metallic with Virtuous White, Pearl Night Star Black with Spear Silver Metallic and Mat Steel Black Metallic with Mat Massive Grey Metal.
    Design
    In terms of design, H’Ness CB350 is a classic cruiser with retro design elements such as round headlamps, Y-shaped spoke alloy wheels and machined fins. Adding a retro touch to modern design are chrome-plated components such as fenders, exhaust and mirrors and a wider rear section tyre.
    Its design has been largely inspired by older retro CB motorcycles. It has taken Honda two years to develop this motorcycle and has been made in India with over 90 percent localisation.
    Features
    Coming to its equipment list, it has a healthy list of features up its sleeve which include a semi-digital instrument panel, Honda Smartphone Voice Control System (HSVC) and Honda Selectable Torque Control System.
    It also comes with modern functionalities such as LED headlamps and Bluetooth-enabled navigation, telephony and music control. The digital MID shows information such as a gear position indicator, two trip meters and required tell-tale lights.
    Mechanical Details
    When it comes to powertrain, it is powered by a 348cc air-cooled single-cylinder engine that pushes out 21bhp and 30Nm of peak torque. It is mated to a 5-speed gearbox with a slipper clutch which ensures smoother gear shifts.
    Suspension duties rest on telescopic forks at front and twin hydraulic shock absorbers at rear. Anchoring is taken care of by 310mm disc brake at front and 240mm disc at rear further assisted by dual-channel ABS.
    Honda H’Ness CB350 is a proper rival to Royal Enfield Classic 350 and will also compete with the upcoming Meteor 350. It had been in the making for a long time, and finally it is now on our roads. More

  • Honda Becomes Kerala’s Largest Two Wheeler Brand – Thanks To Activa

    Honda 2Wheelers India started its journey in India in late 2000 with the launch of its scooter Activa
    Image – Shivam

    Honda Motorcycles and Scooters India (HMSI) completed twenty years in the country this year. In these twenty years, the company has come leaps and bounds ahead and is one of the most sought after two-wheeler brands in the country.
    While it is still behind Hero MotoCorp, which is by far the largest seller of two-wheelers in the world, it definitely enjoys a large loyal fan base in the country. However, there is one state where Honda trumps Hero. The Japanese bike maker recently announced that it has crossed cumulative sales of 25 lakh units in Kerala.
    Honda has revealed that it currently holds 33 percent of the two-wheelers market share in the southern state. This means one out of every three two-wheelers in Kerala is a Honda. What makes this achievement more praiseworthy is that the first 10 lakh sales took fourteen years and the next 15 lakh sales took only six years. This shows that the manufacturer has witnessed unprecedented growth in the past six years.
    This growth could be credited to the company’s strategy to expand its sales and service outlets in the state. Honda currently has 256 such outlets in Kerala. The dominance of Honda is more felt in the scooter segment which accounts for 64 percent of all scooters in the state much higher than the brand’s national average of 29 percent market share.
    Activa is the highest selling two wheeler in Kerala
    Super 6 Benefit
    In order to mark this occasion and to thank its loyal customers in Kerala, Honda 2Wheelers India has announced a “Super 6” offer ahead of the upcoming festive season. This offer will be limited to consumers in Kerala only.
    Under this scheme, the Japanese brand is allowing customers to enjoy benefits of up to Rs 11,000 on any Honda two-wheeler. The offer lasts till November-end 2020.
    Honda is offering up to 100 percent financing schemes with low-interest rates. Customers can choose from a 50 percent discount on EMI scheme and get cashback up to Rs 5,000 on a debit card or credit card EMI. Additionally, customers can avail cashback worth up to Rs 2,500 on transactions through Paytm.
    Recent Launches from Honda
    Honda has been marketing its products very aggressively off late. It has also launched two very tempting motorcycles in the past couple of months- Hornet 2.0 and H’Ness CB350. While Hornet 2.0 is a naked streetfighter, H’Ness Cb350 is a retro-styled classic motorcycle. Hornet 2.0 rivals the likes of TVS Apache RTR 200 4V and Bajaj Pulsar NS200 whereas CB350 directly locks horns with Royal Enfield Classic 350. More

  • 2021 Honda Forza 750 Scooter With DCT 6 Speed – Debuts

    While Honda Two-wheelers is still contemplating on bringing the Forza range in India it has launched its flagship Forza 750 in Europe

    Maxi-scooters are a big rage in international markets, especially in Western countries. Convenient to ride and big in power delivery, these scooters cater to a wide range of enthusiasts. Honda has now announced the launch of a new high-displacement maxi-scooter.
    Dubbed as Forza 750, the new Honda scooter replaces Integra as its flagship scooter in its portfolio. It is basically a revamped mixture of Integra and X-ADV both of which utilised the same powertrain. It has been renamed Forza since the Forza 125 and Forza 300 have been very popular in recent times and the Japanese brand would love to cash in on this. Take a look at the detailed feature presentation below.
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    Powertrain & Transmission
    The powertrain has been updated to comply with Euro 5 emission norms and in process has added a few horses of power. The Forza 750 is powered by the same 745cc parallel-twin motor from the NC range of motorcycles and generates 58 bhp at 6750rpm which is 5 bhp more than its predecessor. Peak torque has also increased from 68 Nm to 69 Nm available at 4750 rpm. Transmission duties are carried out by a six-speed DCT gearbox.
    2021 Honda Forza 750 Specs
    This DCT gearbox offers many possibilities. It gives you the option of letting the gear shifts take place automatically or taking control into your hands and selecting the gear ratios by flicking the switches on the left side of the handlebar. The ride by wire technology makes the shifts even smoother. The DCT gearbox has got four levels of shifts with Level 1 being the most relaxed and shifts early while Level 2 being the most aggressive.
    Dynamics
    It is underpinned by the same platform which also underpins X-ADV and the outgoing Integra. However, the new Honda Forza 750 is more similar in its cycle part architecture to X-ADV than to Integra. An aluminum swingarm with Pro-link rear suspension and 41mm inverted fork is anchored to a steel tube frame. Both suspension units offer 120mm of travel. It uses dual 310mm front discs with radially mounted Nissin four-piston calipers and 17-inch front and 15-inch rear alloy wheels. It also gets dual-channel ABS.

    Features on offer
    Being a flagship product, it has an exhaustive list of features. The Honda Forza 750 is equipped with an electronic throttle which comes in handy when implementing three riding modes- Standard, Sport and Rain. Additionally, there is a fourth mode which is user configurable. Each of the modes establishes a way of delivering power, engine brake level plus ABS intrusion level and traction control.
    It is equipped with a TFT screen with a new voice interface system and Bluetooth connectivity. Other notable attributes of Forza 750 are an all-LED lighting setup, 22-litre of space underneath the seat which has a USB charger, plus a glove box on the right side. It also gets a proximity key that controls the ignition and locks or unlocks the optional rear trunk. More

  • Honda Super 6 Discount Offers For Activa, CB Shine, Dio, Livo, Unicorn

    Just before the start of festive season of Navratri and Diwali, Honda Two Wheelers has announced exciting discount offers
    Image – Shibam

    Honda Motorcycle & Scooter India noted outstanding demand in September 2020 allowing the company to report sales at 5 lakh units. Sales stood at 5,00,887 units in the past month, up 9.87 percent as against 4,55,896 units sold in September 2019, thus gaining 44,991 unit volumes.
    This sales target comes at a time when the COVID-19 pandemic has caused havoc in the industry. Hence crossing the 5 lakh unit mark for the first time since September 2018 was a commendable feat.
    Honda had recently announced two new launches of the H’ness CB350 in the 350cc segment and Hornet 2.0 and looks ahead to the festive season with as much optimism. The company has also revealed that it is working on a new entry level motorcycle which will be positioned below the CD 110 range.
    Honda H’ness CB350 launch was timed just ahead of the festive season. It is offered in two variants of DLX and DLX Pro and priced at Rs.1.85 lakhs and Rs.1.90 lakhs respectively. The Honda Hornet 2.0 was recently launched as a replacement to the CB Hornet 160R and is priced at Rs.1.27 lakhs.
    Honda Discount Offers Oct 2020
    Honda’s Super 6 Festive Offer
    As the Navratri, Dusshera and Diwali festive period in India draws closer, HMSI expects to see increased sales. Besides the fact that the auspicious period is around the corner, the buyer sentiments have also improved especially with the emphasis on personal means of transport in view of the COVID-19 pandemic situation in the country.
    However, assessing the shortage of finances even to optimistic buyers, Honda has introduced a Super 6 Offer. This will include savings upto Rs.11,000, 100 percent finance, low ROI at 7.99 percent onwards and 50 percent EMI offers along with cash back offer upto Rs.50,000 on use of debit and credit cards and special Paytm offers.
    For these benefits, the company has tied up with financial companies such as IndusInd Bank, Muthoot Finance, Chola and Tata Capital and is being offered on all models in the company lineup, which will allow the company to see healthy sales level during this period.
    Honda Activa 6G
    Honda Activa Prices Oct 2020
    The new discount offers announced by Honda, is applicable on all its popular two wheelers in India, including the best selling scooter – Activa. Currently, the Activa range consists of Activa 6G as well as Activa 125. Prices of the Activa 6G start from about Rs 65k while that of the Activa 125 starts from about Rs 69k. All prices are ex-sh. With the above mentioned new offers, customers can save up to Rs 11k on purchase of new Activa. More